totems - power guides

As far as s light and dark wolf. Romana, "Both are essential parts of life and have much to teach
us."
I agree we can learn from both sides of us and life. In our past talks,we have discussed the positive
of dark ; I.E. It is a time of story telling, regrowth, recharge, reflection & knowledge. There are
also unpleasant realities like crime which must be addressed and learned from. We can not put
our heads in the sand of ignorance.
Dearlg1, "I have no particular color,that is why my avatar is the yin and yang wolf. Aspects of
both. There are no bad wolves, just perspectives." I like this as well.
The story of the bad wolf and the good wolf is a gross generalization. I still like it, because it
is a starting point.
All of the above is true. However, the story illustrates, will we be a force for good. Will we train
ourselves to walk the difficult path of enlightenment & recognize ignorance both in the world, but more
importantly within ourselves. Their are people who shine, and are role models. They may have knowledge
a out the baser parts of humanity, but put it to good use.

Dearlg1, "....I got mine from what animal I (feel) most akin to. This is a good way to go about it.
I arrived at my choice of totems Owl and Horse, because I feel akin to them. I have felt an
attraction to the owl. My whole life. The other way is to do a vision quest either in the wilderness,
or in a sweat lodge. Have you ever in your readings, identified with an animal. Or have you dreams
of any animal. If so, they would be your spirit guides. I will give you some information on a
message. Sort through it and tell me your conclusions.

lavender orchid
You invoke peace
And that is felt
Far and near

Thank you, lavender orchid
Your graciousness and well wishes
Strike at me
And fill me with pleasant thoughts
You are a warm breathe of sunshine
May your goodness and inner beauty
Continue to shine and
Enliven all those around you

thank you, lightsun!
the support and strength
coming "form here"

and "here" means
you and life in all
are best shared
in this forum

so i can go out
not only back
in all directions
without fear of more
disharmonies

truth

I just like to say, it is a pleasure reading your writings.
I must say that it is fortuitous that I have met you and
others here on this forum. Mayflow has a great vision.
This forum is a blessing

lightsun wrote:

As far as s light and dark wolf. Romana, "Both are essential parts of life and have much to teach
us."
I agree we can learn from both sides of us and life. In our past talks,we have discussed the positive
of dark ; I.E. It is a time of story telling, regrowth, recharge, reflection & knowledge. There are
also unpleasant realities like crime which must be addressed and learned from. We can not put
our heads in the sand of ignorance.

By extension, people often overlook the negative side of light. Equating dark with evil and light with good is inaccurate, simplistic, and counterproductive. I would not be surprised if it is a part, perhaps subconscious, of racism.

lavender orchid wrote:

Romana,
your name and your community building suggest to me you that one of your totems might be the lion (cougar) while you still are seeking to learn from wolf.

What exactly gives you this impression? My screen name was chosen years ago for convenience, and I am not sure just what I am doing that constitutes community building. I do not disagree - in fact, I do not know enough yet to have a sound opinion. Please forgive me if my questions are rather ignorant.

Romana, "Equating dark with evil and light with good is inaccurate, simplistic, and counterproductive."
I agree. Currently I don't know a way around It. How do we transcend labels. You are right,
either a "negative" label, or a "positive" label is incurrarate and does not do true justice to the
Individual. Words are limiting and hampering, & full of inconsistencies. As soon as you define
God, your words limit him/her. This may be another project, on how to transcend the limitations
of human speech. It is based on superstition. It was perpetrated by our ancestors sitting around
camp fires.. It is carried on today. Our ancestors were scared of the unknown. And scared of
wolves, nighttime, bats, spiders, people with deformities,snakes, sharks & all manner of
creature imagined and put into myth. Usually evil is dark an ugly.
The notion of black has carried over into black-heart, black devil's food cake and so on.
We are carrying over into eastern religion. In Buddhism & Taoism reality just is. It is neither
good or evil. To be a master, is to transcend such labels, to accept reality for it is, and to
take modifying steps. I must confess, I do not know how to truly transcend our language
limitations fully. You & I have used the analogy of steering a raft/boat. To not fight reality,
but learn to steer our course. Currently this is my level of progression. Any idea,or insight
on how to transcend our poor use of language,and the continual stereotyping we use,
would be greatly appreciated.

This goes back to me, and our discussions on cognitive science, & the detection of language
distortions, as well as fallacious in thinking & speech behavior. Our school systems do not
address it. (1). If we could speak with reason, (2). know when we are triggered, learn to identify
thought distortions, (3). learn to be responsible for our emotions, (4). do not speak when
triggered (5). have our emotions processed. We currently do not do this..

Romana wrote:

lavender orchid wrote:

Romana,
your name and your community building suggest to me you that one of your totems might be the lion (cougar) while you still are seeking to learn from wolf.

What exactly gives you this impression? My screen name was chosen years ago for convenience, and I am not sure just what I am doing that constitutes community building. I do not disagree - in fact, I do not know enough yet to have a sound opinion. Please forgive me if my questions are rather ignorant.

can we be agreed that there are no ignorant questions.
i do not hear ignorance in your questions here.

the impression came from the outward facade alone. hence i said i perceived a suggestion.
who chose your screen name years ago for whose convenience.
impressions from reading, no judgment. no re-action to push you.
an impression on my attention and interest reaching out, nonetheless.

lightsun wrote:

Romana, "Equating dark with evil and light with good is inaccurate, simplistic, and counterproductive."
I agree. Currently I don't know a way around It. How do we transcend labels. You are right,
either a "negative" label, or a "positive" label is incurrarate and does not do true justice to the
Individual. Words are limiting and hampering, & full of inconsistencies.

This need not be overthought. Simply use the most precise and accurate word for what you mean. If you mean evil, bad, or ugly, say these, not black or dark. If you mean an absence of light, as in a room with the lights off, or the forest at night, say dark. If you mean the colors, say black and white. There is nothing wrong with labels, and we cannot escape their use. The problem arises only when we use the wrong label, or an incomplete, confusing, or misleading label.

http://www.recmusic.org/lieder/get_text.html?TextId=25780

goes.... with this totem:

\!!
frozen emotions
in ongoing vision quest
realities are shifting
what adaptation next
is forced on relations
in a global context


veloy vigil, like antelope run
http://www.hanksville.org/NAresources/indices/Vigil2.html


for all that goes unsaid
but never unnoticed
beyond the insinuation
of clinging

g

as good as any watch dog
and just as sacred
still

cape barren goose
epitaph for an ego

i do this and i do that
i have this and you need that
i am all .... the universe

we're doing a raincheck, she said

some will destroy empty spaces even
or eliminate the negative

it needs all kinds before
a lot of kinds become very unnecessary

it's not the totems
but the totemism in the art factory
and business as usual
that we love
not to touch

welcome to the club

"you cannot make them love you!"
is that why i left
?

been there done
that somewhere
in summer


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcCuTLyuQ0w

what's there to shield anyway?
where i draw the line..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d0hKs-C34bU&feature=PlayList&p=029F8ED32E2F4392&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=4

what 50 teeth are good for
when all you want is a fur coat
remains a mystery
of seems

patience
would only become
active in slomo
seeming attached
to habit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-2JP4XZj8Ks

ok. just the right message, today, from a true friend.

being
on good terms
would be not
just trying

aha?

\!!
suspect?
suspect.
amen..

beethoven's 9: roll over..!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V6j1g2KE8NA&feature=rec-r2-2f-2-HM